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of the principles that john mccain espoused, and even president bush. do you think that's the first place they'll go to build consensus with the president. >> that's a natural place to go because it's in their self interest to not lose roughly 12%, 15% of the electorate as they move forward. they'll lose texas. they'll lose virginia and north north carolina. florida. that's a formula politics, as you know, you want to grow. you don't want to do things that shrink. that's an area that is incumbent on the president to give a framework. i say this as a democrat. democrats shouldn't just talk about this issue as we're better than republicans. i mean, democrats need to be very affirmative about how important the latino population is to our country. they did great things day in an day out. they're a great part of our future, and it has to be more than hey we're better than the republicans. this is a very important constituency and we need to do right by them. >> gavin: what about gay marriage. there are some final counts in washington state but the three states--two states affirmative and the one that pul
it that in a second. do you expect the party to rally around some of the principles that john mccain or former president bush was willing to go in terms of comprehensive reform, do you think they'll go there with the president? >> it's natural place to look at because it's in their political self interest to not lose roughly 70% of the 10% of the electorate. if they continue than path they'll lose texas, north carolina florida. that's a formula in politics, you want to grow. you don't want to shrink. that is incumbent on the president to provide a framework. democrats should not think about this issue as we're better than republicans. democrats need to look at how important the latino population is to our country day in and day out, they are a part of our future. it needs to be more than we're better than the republicans, and this is a big ton consistent constituency and we need to support them. >> gavin: the gay marriage, two states affirmative and then they pull back in minnesota because of draconian legislation. you were in the thick of it. this is toxic even in our own party. >> look, you
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